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PODCAST: Kanye West & the Doctrine of Awesomeness.

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Popcast: Kanye West and the Doctrine of Awesomeness
This week: The return of Kanye West.

Jon Caramanica and Ben Ratliff of the NYT discuss Kanye West — his state of mind, whats it like interviewing him, and his new album, “Yeezus.”


Recently Jon Caramanica flew out to Malibu for several sessions of interviews with Kanye West at Rick Rubin’s Shangri-La studios, where Mr. West was putting the finishing touches on his forthcoming album, “Yeezus,” days before it was to be mastered and sent to the pressing plant.

Mr. West hadn’t sat for a long interview in several years. In conversations about his past, present and future, Mr. West was proud, defiant and philosophical as he discussed ambition, love, inspiration (from Kim Kardashian and a Le Corbusier lamp) and the doctrine of awesomeness.

Mr. Caramanica talks to the Popcast host Ben Ratliff about the stark, throbbing feel of “Yeezus,” Mr. West’s current state of mind and the Shangri-La vibe.

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